Is talking about Tantra a taboo? Interview with Deva Nishok

Interview conducted by Andréia Félix:

Deva Nishok: Tantra is a word that, in Sanskrit, means "Plots", the threads of behavior that shape and organize our lives. Tantra is behavioral and he deals exclusively with human behavior. It is not a philosophical system, it is not science, it is not religion.

Tantra is based on human behavior and its related aspects. Tantra is interested in how we act or react, what we think, why we think, what we say. Words, thoughts and actions are the object of observation for a Tantric, the neophyte apprentice of this system of human development.

Tantra develops us, always developed us. It contains the keys to understanding our most intimate nature, which is Divine in essence. He has made our development possible through the ages. But man has not yet understood all the potential that Tantra meditative techniques offer in terms of development through the senses. Our most intelligent part is the sensory, as well as that of all animals and plants.

Our formative development, the formation of our body and all the parts that compose it is only possible due to the creative potential that exists in the right cerebral hemisphere. The left hemisphere exists for the practicality of everyday life and for the fulfillment of tasks related to our survival. But our society has always neglected the potential of the senses to the detriment of intelligence. One cannot feel with totality, one must think. For this reason, Tantra is despised by our culture, as it is considered to be orgic, lustful, sensual, animal, dirty, sinful. The basis of working with Tantra is the creative energy of life, which we call Kundalini. This energetic fabric unites all things, because everything is permeated by Kundalini. We are impregnated with this energy and live in a huge existential ocean whose water is called Kundalini. We live and breathe in this vital energy. This energy is said to be sexual, as it deals with molecular organization and support. It is responsible for the reproduction of cells and their survival. This energy also has the predicates of intelligence, necessary for each cell to fulfill its physiological and anatomical function, according to the roles they came to play. Imagine that this knowledge, of the total love of a creative intelligence, is available to all men without distinction. All beings are able to not only understand this wisdom that is so pertinent and so present in their lives, but also to feel it in their hearts. This knowledge, and this perception have a certain liberating effect in essence, because she knows and feels that she does not need to submit to the power games that are so much treated by politicians and religious in our world. We would no longer be playthings by unscrupulous doctors or dishonest lawyers.

Contact with Kundalini vitalizes us in several aspects, on the physical, mental, emotional and intellectual levels. The dimension of these values ​​can only be understood by those who have already experienced the Supraconsciousness process and become familiar with the wordless communication that manifests itself, through a divine order. There are no words that can explain the waves of new intelligence and new emotions that are appropriated by practitioners, who, after all, experience a wonderful state of freedom and confidence, a deep connection with life. So it is difficult for society to speak of Tantra. It means talking about your intimacy, your most intimate nature, expressing your truths and needs as a soul and essence, what you came to accomplish on this planet and everything you need to transform into love.

Do you think people have difficulties seeing tantric massage without thinking about sexual connotations?

Deva Nishok: It is very difficult for this society to dissociate itself from the idea of ​​sex. Human need is enormous; lack of affection, affection, looking, smelling, embracing, being touched, feeling welcomed in the heart. Any massage professional, whatever the modality of massage, be it shiatsu, lymphatic drainage, ayurvedic, therapeutic, etc ... knows that the Transfer process - a situation in which the client tries to get involved with the therapist - happens very regularly and frequency. This behavioral deviation happens not only in tantric massage, which is the most sensorial massage that exists. Any massage allows the client to interpret the signs of affection, affection, exclusive dedication, even if for a period of time determined by what the client, male or female, often no longer receives at home. The sexual connotation occurs in several situations and appears as a reflection of the individual's lack, which projects the possibility of also curing himself in his need. Human sex is of terrible quality and never offers the satisfactory conditions that the client needs. It has been, quite wrongly, that the myth of tantric sex offers the most perfect conditions of pleasure and it is believed that all therapists who claim to be tantric have great experience in the sexual area, which is another illusion. Thanks to this mentality, the myth was created that tantric massage, as well as Thai massage, is linked to prostitution. There is a huge void in the human species that cannot be adequately filled, as the moral, political and religious repression in relation to the model of human sexual behavior is enormous.

How do you define tantrism?

In the case of Tantra, this expression is a corruption. You cannot study Tantra, you cannot research Tantra. Tantra has no way of accessing the instruments of analysis. It is sensory and can only be perceived by the practitioner. Tantra is proprioceptive, that is, it deals with the development of one's own perception. It is sensory because it uses the senses, and it is unrepressive, because the logical mind is not in a position to repress. What you feel, feel, is not possible to deny. The expression “Tantrism” came to be coined by the yogic current of Tantra.

Is it seen in the same way in the east and in the west?

No. In India alone, today, there are more than 30 schools in Tantra. It is a great fad that grows year after year, due to the immense human need to go deeper into the subject. Almost all of these schools have corrupted the original meaning of Tantra, adapting it to a model that could be studied and dogmatized by its adherents. Then several schools emerged, even with principles so antagonistic and paradoxical, as for example, of the Tantric vision of Taoism. Taoism emerged in a sexist country, within the patriarchal view. How could a matriarchal vision gain adherents in a society of dominant males? Man will never be able to know the feminine nature and, if he succeeds, all he will do will be to dominate the feminine and subdue him to his strength and will. They then developed the Mulabanda technique, long used in India by Pranayama supporters, which allows for elevation and awareness of Kundalini, promoting greater clarity of reasoning. But the ejaculatory restraint, so advocated by the Taoists, has another reason, excuse: The Taoist sex is of an orgiac nature. Each man can relate to up to six women in a single practice. If the man ejaculates with the first lover, he will not experience the second, the third, and all the others. But you will never see in Taoist society, a woman having sex with six men. There is the Tantric view of Yoga, full of paradoxical contradictions. Yoga is an austere discipline with a lot of disciplinary rigidity, while Tantra is a deep dive into relaxation, confidence and surrender. Yoga was codified by Patânjali, and Tantra comes from a period prior to Vedanta. There is also the Buddhist vision of Tantra, which emphasizes the mechanism of death, life and rebirth, an almost endless cycle of incarnations that the soul needs, until it reaches enlightenment. There are schools that deal with Tantric ritual magic, such as Golden Dawn, Gnosis or shamanic schools in ancient Russia and Siberia. Tantra cannot have a ritual. The ritual kills all possibility of Tantra's spontaneity surviving. The ritual is located in the left cerebral hemisphere. Also in the 60s, Sanniasyns, Osho's disciples, coined a new aspect of Tantra, which they named Neo Tantra, focused on the freedom to be and live. Neo Tantra was of an orgiacal nature and focused almost exclusively on sexual freedom mixed with therapeutic processes that allowed its practitioners a deep sense of ecstasy. All of these views distorted the original values ​​of Tantra, making it prone to certain aspects. The original Tantra is very simple and very easy to be accessed by anyone, requiring no qualification.

Is feeling pleasure freeing yourself from the world?

Pleasure is still little studied in our civilization. Very little is known about pleasure and its repercussions on our bodies. Pleasure has counterparts and effects that are produced in the person's mind, emotions and soul. Pleasure is a potent medicine that cures many ills in our society. In the absence of pleasure, many pathologies are developed, some of which are morbid. The lack of pleasure creates anomalous, schizoid, neurotic and pathological individuals. Pleasure is essential to our society. But doctors do not recommend pleasure, psychologists do not recommend pleasure, judges do not establish the obligation of pleasure in their sentences. Educators say nothing about pleasure. Pleasure causes a revolution to the human being, because it is responsible for the production of the main hormones of the body - serotonins, endorphins, oxytocins, a good dose of adrenaline, etc ..., fundamental hormones for the individual to obtain a better quality of life and be considered healthy in countless aspects. They also act on metabolism, on the relationship with other hormones fundamental to the body's balance, such as progesterone and testosterone. Innumerable pathologies could be cured easily with the immediate restoration of pleasure, especially sexual pleasure, provided it is practiced in a healthy and full way.

How does orgasm connect to energy and spirituality?

The word Orgasm originated from ancient Greek and means "movement of organic liquids". With the intensification of pleasure, several hormones, or "body fluids" are produced, intensified and mobilized, producing numerous reactions in the body, mind and emotions, influencing and acting on the spiritual counterpart. It is difficult to talk about orgasm for people who have never experienced it. The great researchers of Orgasm recognize that approximately 76 to 80% of the world population does not know what orgasm is and has never experienced it. Today we know that what society usually calls orgasm is a neuromuscular spasm, of a contractile nature, from which expands some energetic force whose action offers, in the sequence, a certain relaxation. So, it is common to say that orgasm offers great relaxation. It is a great release of tension. One has the idea that the main benefit of orgasm is the feeling of relaxation that it offers, dissolving tensions and anxieties. In general, we learn to deal with orgasm from the first experiences with masturbation. For the vast majority, if not for all people, our contact with orgasm is due to the initiation of the practice of masturbation. But the masturbatory orgasm is psychogenic in nature, that is, we need to imagine, fantasize, invent the act or action in which the libido potentiates orgasm. It would be as if we said that we need to imagine the chicken roasted in the pan, being roasted with Doré potatoes and loose rice with farofa, so that the digestive hormones activate the pre-digestive process. Fantasizing offers the conditions that the brain needs to produce hormones of any kind. In Tantra we call this brain capacity haptic and it is considered more of a sense. For us, the brain is a gland and thought can be considered a hormone, which interacts with all other hormones. Some hormones, when intensified, act as chemical producers that allow access to other spiritual layers of existence. Some parts of the body, such as the glans, be it the penis or clitoris, or the nipples, of men and women, and also certain sensory lines of our body, when properly stimulated, for a certain period, offer the conditions to penetrate worlds and systems that relate to and interact with ours. Past, present and future acquire the quality of intrinsic understanding and we simply know things without the distinction of time and space, with which we are used and conditioned.

How can tantra treat anxiety and emotional problems?

Tantra's sensory practices, as well as its social meditations, allow for a better hormonal balance, affecting all spheres of being, body, mind, emotions and spirit, reducing anxieties, depressions, anxieties and restoring self-confidence and self-confidence. self esteem.

How does a session work?

If it is a tantric massage session, we have several therapeutic possibilities, some awaken the sensory potential of the body, others work on corrective aspects for sexual dysfunctions such as impotence, problems with erective capacity, premature ejaculation, in the case of men, or anorgasmia (inability to orgasm) and genital insensitivity in the case of women. Each type of massage has aspects that are evaluated by the therapist and applied according to the needs of each client. Our work is characterized by the seriousness and competence with which we carry it out. Accredited therapists are strictly instructed not to relate to clients, as we have an approach focused on the therapeutic needs that the client needs. There is not and cannot be sex inserted in the context of the work offered through the Metamorphosis Center. Unfortunately, we do not recommend many of the professionals on the market today. It is highly recommended that the person obtains information about the professional, or that he / she receives indications about the service, especially with regard to the hygiene of the place and the health of the professionals who attend. Be wary of professionals who say they belong or have belonged to our staff of therapists and who are not on our list of therapists indicated on the website. Our work is unique and dynamic, in constant development, completely different from other options available in the tantric massage market. Our purposes and results are absolutely different, stemming from research that has been developing for over 15 years.

Is there embarrassment the first time, either due to the fact that the client is naked or because he is seen by a man?

For the first few sessions, yes. In our space, due to the qualification of our professionals, the way they guide clients, the ethical and professional attitude, this is usually resolved immediately and in general the person quickly relaxes and trusts in work. The results are immediate, the person soon begins to experience unusual levels of pleasure, which will soon intensify. There is not much room for unnecessary judgments, as the pleasure journey soon offers a new condition of trust.

After a few sessions, is it possible for the client to continue working at home?

This is exactly the great difficulty of Tantra. You find an unimaginable level of pleasure and get frustrated when you realize that people are unaware of this possibility and it cannot be shared. Think about it, who will spend an hour and a half dedicating themselves to you, allowing you to live your pleasure intensely? And then? Will you dedicate yourself to offering your partner the same intense pleasure for an hour and a half? There needs to be a paradigm shift in relationships. People have become addicted to spending the entire Sunday in front of the TV, watching the Sunday of Faustão. This is your great Sunday pleasure. Soon after comes Fantástico, the show of life. Wow, this is an orgasm! But intercourse lasts a maximum of ten minutes - or fifteen, at best. People do not look at each other, do not hear, do not touch, do not feel. They have to care for and care for their children, their parents, their pets, their neighbors. And they don't care about themselves, they don't dedicate themselves to what they really need, to the essential caress.

Is there more demand for men or women at the Metamorfose Center?

Today we do a job to bring women into the experience. The number of men has always been greater, due to the nature of their sexual dysfunctions. But today, that number is balanced. We welcome women with the proposal to transform their lives, to reveal orgasmic pleasure to them, giving them another meaning to live. We are gaining media recognition for our work precisely for the benefits we offer women. Our recommendation is to be very careful when choosing therapists, as there are unscrupulous people, in bad faith, acting as massage therapists. Right now we are preparing a special course that will teach women how to get the most out of the vibrator. Proper use of the vibrator is essential for the woman to achieve the best orgasmic experience in her life. Many women buy cheap and inexpensive vibrators and are unable to obtain adequate results. They need guidance on how to buy a good vibrator and know its anatomy and clitoral and vaginal physiology to achieve expressive results.

Do men usually accept when their women seek tantric massage?

Some yes. The mentality of men is changing. Especially if there is love and complicity. We always recommend that you get to know the space, that you talk to therapists, whether men or women, that you make sure that our work has no sexual connotations between therapists and that we really privilege the rescue of relationships. Many men do not know how to touch their wives satisfactorily and many women also do not know how to produce a satisfying touch that gives a man continuous pleasure without him ejaculating quickly. At Centro Metamorfose, we are delighted to teach the Deva Nishok method to couples and partners so that they can improve the quality of their relationship.